I'm interested in someone who's mired in grief: how do you get back to that thing that makes them warm? Because you know that's in there.
I would be constantly brought up on the carpet by these teachers who were brought up with Abstract Expressionism, saying, "You're too uptight, you're not expressing yourself, why don't you feel freer?" I said, "Well, I don't like that stuff. It means nothing to me. "