Donald Trump wins 2,623 counties and Hillary Clinton with 489. You know how many counties independents won? Zero. Just like they always have. Not one county. Independents did not win one county. The exception to that, 1992 when Ross Perot won 15. The independents don't win anything. That's why I've always - the precious independents and the moderates and so forth. So much bohunk out there.
Ross Perot. I could have had a ball with him.
If Ross Perot runs, that's good for us. If he doesn't run, it's good for us.
I never had a single conversation about politics with Ross Perot in my life; still haven't.